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+[12:00:24] [connected at Wed Jun 22 12:00:24 2022]
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+[12:00:58] * rg3igalia waves
+[12:01:55] <Lyude> Hi everyone, time for rolecall! anholt_ (if you're around but I don't think so), daniels, mdnavare_, mfilion, rg3igalia
+[12:02:01] <mfilion> o/
+[12:02:19] <Lyude> not sure where alyssa is
+[12:03:05] <Lyude> oh oops, wrong daniel
+[12:03:08] <Lyude> *danvet
+[12:05:57] <Lyude> so, I want to start the meeting but we only have 3 people right now :\, which doesn't meet quorum (and, I'm not sure we could really do much with 3 people anyway)
+[12:06:53] <mfilion> starting to think moving to this day/time wasn't ideal lol
+[12:07:18] <rg3igalia> What do we do normally in this case?
+[12:07:43] <Lyude> rg3igalia: usually skip the meeting (this has happened before jfyi), although I'd kind of like to get action on the stuff that bentiss brought up
+[12:07:44] <rg3igalia> Try another day perhaps? Previous schedule?
+[12:08:46] <Lyude> if folks respond on time to rescheduling that would work, but I wouldn't hold my breath too much since I don't know that I've ever tried that before
+[12:09:37] <Lyude> I'll poke folks and see if they're up for that, for now though we may as well at least try to go over the stuff that bentiss sent out to us and I'll nag the rest of the board members to respond via email
+[12:10:08] <Lyude> basically https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/freedesktop/freedesktop/-/issues/438 bentiss was wondering what we thought of this proposal to limit CI access to curb the issues we've been having with people trying to mine play money on our gitlab instance
+[12:11:07] <Lyude> mfilion, rg3igalia ?
+[12:11:30] * rg3igalia booting up desktop, one minute
+[12:13:03] <mfilion> I don't understand it all well enough but bentiss is the one dealing with this, and if he wants to try this, then why not
+[12:13:44] <rg3igalia> that URL is a 404 to me, BTW
+[12:14:00] <Lyude> rg3igalia: you need to be logged in but maybe you aren't added to the gitlab permissions, one sec
+[12:14:24] <rg3igalia> thanks, I'm logged in indeed
+[12:14:57] <daniels> I have Opinions but I don't have time to meaningfully contribute so am going to sit this one out
+[12:15:09] <Lyude> rg3igalia: what's your gitlab username?
+[12:15:35] <rg3igalia> Lyude: same as here, rg3igalia
+[12:15:52] <rg3igalia> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/rg3igalia
+[12:15:57] * anholt_ here now
+[12:16:14] <anholt_> oh, but I do need to leave in 15 minutes
+[12:16:27] <Lyude> anholt_: that's fine, if you could just comment on what I posted that's good enough
+[12:16:51] <Lyude> rg3igalia: try now
+[12:17:08] <rg3igalia> it works, thanks
+[12:18:00] <mdnavare_> Hi All, sorry joining late
+[12:18:19] <rg3igalia> I'm not an expert, but the proposal seems reasonable to me
+[12:18:21] <Lyude> oh hey we have quorum no
+[12:18:23] <Lyude> *now
+[12:18:44] <Lyude> and yeah me as well, +1 from me
+[12:18:49] * rg3igalia be back in ~15 minutes
+[12:19:47] <Lyude> mdnavare: let me know what you think about the draft that got posted
+[12:20:37] <mdnavare> Lyude: Sure looking right now
+[12:25:03] <mdnavare> Its the one with Xorg/Freedesktop joining SFC right?
+[12:25:13] <Lyude> mdnavare: no it's the one I linked above, hold on
+[12:25:35] <Lyude> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/freedesktop/freedesktop/-/issues/438
+[12:26:54] <Lyude> hey alyssa, if you could give feedback on https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/freedesktop/freedesktop/-/issues/438 that would be appreciated
+[12:27:02] <alyssa> 404
+[12:27:10] <Lyude> hfjdsfh lemme fix
+[12:27:38] <Lyude> alyssa: fixed
+[12:27:54] <mdnavare> Lyude: Perfect, thanks yes this looks good for restricted access of the runners
+[12:28:12] * alyssa reads
+[12:29:03] <Lyude> also, a bit out of order since I didn't know if we were going to reach quorum earlier but I'll mention the full agenda in a minute, tbh this is really the biggest thing on the agenda though
+[12:31:33] <anholt_> ok, replied to the shared runner issue. got to go.
+[12:31:41] <Lyude> np thanks!
+[12:34:54] <Lyude> I guess I'll go over the rest of the agenda while we wait actually: XDC2022/XDC2023, GSoC/outreachy/EVoC. MIPI alliance and CSI,. On the MIPI alliance and csi: no updates, still need to poke the person who said they'd be willing to help us find contacts for this. XDC2022/XDC2023: no updates, other then coming up with a group to review CFPs
+[12:35:45] <Lyude> Oh - also, we had a request from the freedesktop admins to see if we could get a VM for various legacy services. I think we'd likely go about that by poking equinix
+[12:37:59] <Lyude> alyssa: regarding your comment, do you think we should approve this draft or?
+[12:38:44] <mfilion> I unfortunately need to run. We should definitely try to change the of this meeting again, clearly it doesn't work well if we can only start talking agenda 35 minutes into it.
+[12:39:08] <Lyude> yeah :\, I'll send emails again. it's possible that folks are still getting used to the new meeting time
+[12:39:16] <Lyude> (emails about changing the time I mean)
+[12:39:41] <alyssa> Lyude: I don't know. Probably? I'm just very nervous.
+[12:39:53] <mfilion> awesome thks Lyude
+[12:41:18] <Lyude> alyssa: fwiw I actually have a lot more experience w/ dealing with folks spamming services, back when I still was an IRC admin on ponychat we had folks try to ddos constantly. the thing really comes down to just playing the arms race until they inevitably get bored and try somewhere else. it's usually not a constant back and forth between trying to stop spammers and spammers fighting
+[12:41:20] <Lyude> back
+[12:42:29] <Lyude> I guess as well any system is going to have some potential for abuse, it's about trying to minimize it wherever we can
+[12:42:40] <alyssa> Lyude: that's fair. I know machines, not humans.
+[12:42:49] <alyssa> and I can tell you what the machine's next move would be.
+[12:43:00] <alyssa> but these are hoomans we're up against, eh
+[12:43:11] <Lyude> oh sorry, I meant to say *a lot more experience then it might seem
+[12:43:15] <Lyude> not just *a lot more
+[12:43:25] <alyssa> well, they're both accurate :]
+[12:44:01] <Lyude> anyway, I guess I can say this approach is approved, although the draft might need a few small changes
+[12:44:35] <Lyude> I think since we don't have that many people here we'll just table the VM stuff for legacy services until the next meeting, thanks for coming everyone!
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