This week's meeting minutes

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 * [[May. 28|BoardOfDirectors/IrcLogs/2015/05-28]]
 * [[June 12|BoardOfDirectors/IrcLogs/2015/06-12]]
 * [[June 25|BoardOfDirectors/IrcLogs/2015/06-25]]
+* [[July 09|BoardOfDirectors/IrcLogs/2015/07-09]]
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+Date is 2015-07-10, times are UTC+10.  
+[[!format txt """
+--- Day changed Fri Jul 10 2015
+07:01 < whot> good morning gents
+07:02 < martintetedenain> hey guys!
+07:02 < martintetedenain> oh, need to change my nick!
+07:02 < whot> yes, stop the confusion already! :)
+07:02 < agd5f> hey
+07:03 -!- martintetedenain is now known as mupuf-jolla
+07:03 < robclark> heheh, hi
+07:06 < whot> keithp: ping
+07:06 <+keithp> whot: what's up?
+07:06 < whot> roll call check :)
+07:06 <+keithp> oh, meeting time
+07:07 < mupuf-jolla> yeah, meeting time!
+07:07 < whot> alrighty, let's get started, three issues on the agenda, expo, bylaws and the trademark thingy I sent out yesterday. anything else on the list?
+07:08 < mupuf-jolla> well, there is the members website thingy too, but we should probably handle it in the ml
+07:09 < whot> yeah
+07:09 < whot> robclark: any updates on expo?
+07:09 < mupuf-jolla> so sorry for not answering...
+07:09 < robclark> not terribly much.. I basically got as far as reading http://blog.tommyku.com/blog/setup-gmail-smtp-on-openshift-hosted-app and then got distracted..
+07:10 < robclark> but basically looks like we just need a smtp server somewhere we can talk to..
+07:10 < robclark> not sure what the best way to do that w/out making that smtp a spam relay..
+07:10 < whot> last meeting we talked about using fdo for that?
+07:11 <+keithp> yes, we have SSL smtp set up on fdo now
+07:12 < robclark> ok, so I guess we setup a pub/priv key pair for the openshift instance, and then figure out how to make php do smtp over ssh, or something roughly like that?
+07:12 <+keithp> oh, but we didn't get a magic smtp-only account set up that we could use
+07:12 <+keithp> robclark: no, just forward smtp to fdo and have it set up to allow for relays
+07:13 <+keithp> would need to configure the email setup on openshift instance to use the appropriate smtp user/pass
+07:13 <+keithp> robclark: would you like to just have joe rayhawk make this happen?
+07:13 < robclark> ahh, ok
+07:13 <+keithp> instead of attempting to configure the two ends separately?
+07:14 < robclark> I guess I don't mind who does the fd.o end of it..
+07:14 < robclark> just let me know the magic user/pass and I'll update the php
+07:14 < robclark> and push to openshift instance, and then we should be in business..
+07:14 <+keithp> ok
+07:15 < whot> sounds like a plan
+07:16 < whot> I had DNS cname entry on the minutes from last time, I think egbert wanted to look into that but he's afk. robclark did you look at that too?
+07:16 < robclark> nope
+07:16 < whot> right
+07:17 < whot> guess that bit gets deferred then until egbert is back
+07:18 < whot> anything else on expo?
+07:19 < robclark> I guess moving mailing lists are still to-do..  but I assume that is mostly just a matter of asking some fd admin to setup some lists.. and maybe update MX record in dns?
+07:21 <+keithp> robclark: does fdo need to also proxy inbound mail?
+07:21 <+keithp> I thought mailing lists were just going to run on fdo
+07:21 <+keithp> in which case, yeah, a simple MX record would suffice
+07:21 < robclark> keithp, I think we just don't do inbound mail on expo..
+07:21 < danvet> whot, sorry for being late, but juliet's evoc is also for agenda I think
+07:21 < robclark> and just move the lists to fd.o
+07:21 < whot> danvet: yeah, I just saw matt's email
+07:21 < danvet> yeah just arrived
+07:21 < robclark> so only thing mail related going on with expo is things like I-forgot-my-password emails..
+07:22 < whot> which is outbound only
+07:22 < robclark> (and other such notifications)
+07:22 < robclark> right
+07:22 < whot> keithp: didn't we pester you to ask for mailing list migration to fdo last meeting? or do I misremember that?
+07:23 <+keithp> I'll I remembered was that we needed to get outbound mail setup from expo?
+07:23 <+keithp> and that sounds like it almost won't be needed
+07:23 < robclark> it will be light traffic..
+07:24 < robclark> there are one or two things that the member system sends notifications emails..  and that is really it..
+07:24 <+keithp> yup
+07:24 < robclark> (well, maybe wiki too, I didn't check that part)
+07:24 < robclark> which reminds me, I need to migrate the wiki as well..
+07:24 <+keithp> so, need to get mailing lists migrated; that means pulling list members out and just creating a new list on fd.o
+07:24 < robclark> yup
+07:25 <+keithp> we already have lists.x.org hosted on gabe
+07:25 <+keithp> just means making a members list and a board list, right?
+07:25 < robclark> I think it is just those two
+07:25 <+keithp> sounds good
+07:26 < whot> there used to be events@x.org I think, but I don't think we've used it in years
+07:26 <+keithp> who has access to the members list? I can create a mailman list on fd.o
+07:26 <+keithp> events@lists.x.org exists
+07:27 < robclark> I guess whot probably has list admin?
+07:27 < robclark> to get the member list
+07:27 < whot> not that I know of, sorry
+07:27 <+keithp> daniels has list admin on events@lists.x.org
+07:27 < robclark> hmm, ok.. I thought you were one to add me to list, maybe I'm misremembering..
+07:27 <+keithp> robclark: surely members@ should be generated from the member ship directly
+07:27 < robclark> ahh, ok..
+07:28 <+keithp> at least, that would be nice to do in theory
+07:28 < robclark> well, in that case, I have a (several week old) dump of the mysql db..
+07:28 < whot> getting the email addresses is easy, getting the settings across is different. then again it probably doesn't matter if we miss the correct digest settings :)
+07:29 < whot> so who's got what on the todo list then?
+07:30 < robclark> I can handle updating php for members system once we have smtp user/pass.. and meanwhile I'll migrate the wiki..
+07:30 <+keithp> I will create the mailman lists. I don't have access to the membership at this point, so if someone else can send me the list of email addresses, I'll subscribe all of them
+07:30 < whot> keithp: I'll get that to you later today
+07:30 <+keithp> ok
+07:30 <+keithp> who wants to be listadmin (other than me) for this?
+07:31 < whot> all of us on the board? the more, the merrier :)
+07:31 < whot> plus, higher chance of a list admin being available when needed
+07:31 <+keithp> you'll get daily spam about oustanding admin issues
+07:31 < danvet> it'll be subscriber-only, right?
+07:32 <+keithp> danvet: yes
+07:32 < danvet> for intel-gfx I only get mod mails about spam since we occasionally need to whitelist lkml people
+07:32 < danvet> if that's killed by default there shouldn't be anything really
+07:32 <+keithp> it's pretty minor
+07:32 < danvet> so imo ok to make everyone on the board admin
+07:32 <+keithp> how about I just subscribe board@lists.x.org as admin :-)
+07:33 < whot> I want at least 2 backup accounts though
+07:33 < whot> and yes, you can sign me up for one of them
+07:34 < whot> ok, that should be all for expo today then?
+07:34 <+keithp> sounds good
+07:35 < mupuf-jolla> yep
+07:35 < whot> slotting in the EVoC request in the agenda: brian is happy to mentor juliet for the project we voted on a while ago
+07:35 < whot> that was approved based on "if the mentor says yes" and then laura couldn't mentor at that time.
+07:35 < robclark> sounds good then..  I think all that was missing was a mentor before..
+07:36 < whot> so I don't think we need a formal vote, but just in case, everyone happy with the green light?
+07:36 < mupuf-jolla> yep, she will likely be the only evoc.
+07:36 < agd5f> sounds good
+07:36 < robclark> sounds good
+07:37 <+keithp> awesome, I'm in. +1
+07:37 < mupuf-jolla> we should make sure she merges stuff one by one . She apparently is new to all this so better not leave her work on her own
+07:38 < danvet> +1
+07:38 < agd5f> +1
+07:38 < mupuf-jolla> +1
+07:38 < whot> alright, passed. thanks
+07:39 < whot> ok, let's move on, SPI. mupuf-jolla 
+07:40 < mupuf-jolla> nothing new, really
+07:41 < mupuf-jolla> i was supposed to contact someone but i apparently have been slacking and have been enjoying the sun!
+07:41 < mupuf-jolla> I will set an alarm to do it next week!
+07:41 < mupuf-jolla> sorry guys
+07:42 < whot> ok, we'll postpone it again then, running low on time
+07:42 < whot> last item: do we have rules/regulations for the use of our logo?
+07:43 <+keithp> whot: I don't believe we have a trademark on our logo
+07:44 < mupuf-jolla> is there anything you do not want to happen?
+07:44 < whot> yes, "endorsed by X.Org" on a product we don't even know about
+07:44 < mupuf-jolla> i mean, to me, it does not make sense to restrict the redistribution
+07:45 < mupuf-jolla> no need for copyrights on this!
+07:45 < mupuf-jolla> endorsed is a strong word!
+07:46 < mupuf-jolla> Running X.org, that would be OK
+07:46 < agd5f> it's not registered, but we could probably make the legal case that we have certain rights due to our historic use of it.  that said, if there are others who have used it in the past and we didn't enforce our trademark, we probably don't have much of a case
+07:47 < whot> right. so I guess the simple way here is to request that he won't suggest any endorsement and that's it
+07:48 < mupuf> yes
+07:48 < mupuf> I would say it is already what happens for tux
+07:48 < mupuf> it is used on a ton of products
+07:48 < agd5f> seems reasonable
+07:49 < danvet> yeah
+07:49 < mupuf> maybe we could check what the linux foundation does
+07:49 < mupuf> and take the same approach
+07:49 < danvet> they do a bit of enforcement I think since otherwise they'd lose rights to the registered trademark
+07:49 < whot> right. I'll handle this then, will CC the board on the email
+07:50 < mupuf> whot: thanks!
+07:50 < danvet> hm "linux" seems a fairly serious business nowadays
+07:50 < danvet> http://www.linuxfoundation.org/programs/legal/trademark
+07:51 < whot> guess once you have the trademark, you need to care and follow the legal requirements
+07:52 < danvet> yeah
+07:52 < danvet> the sublicense form is impressive
+07:52 < whot> alright, I think that's all we had on the agenda for today. anything we missed?
+07:52 < mupuf> whot: GSoC
+07:53 < mupuf> the midterms have passed
+07:53 < mupuf> all the students passed
+07:53 < whot> ah, cool, thanks
+07:53 < mupuf> we had a problem with one mentor being away on vacation
+07:53 < mupuf> and I had to fill his evaluation
+07:54 < whot> do the students know about this yet? i.e. can I put it in the minutes?
+07:55 < danvet> well I just send a mail to mine
+07:56 < whot> ok
+07:56 < whot> mupuf: anything else from GSoC?
+07:56 < mupuf> whot: no, not really
+07:56 < mupuf> yes, they know
+07:56 < mupuf> it was last week
+07:57 < whot> ok, thanks
+07:57 < whot> I think we can call it a day then
+07:58 < mupuf> very well! Have a good evening/morning/afternoon, everyone
+07:58 < robclark> sounds good
+07:58 <+keithp> thanks much!
+07:58 < whot> thanks for attending, see you in two weeks
+"""]]
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 * [[May 28|BoardOfDirectors/MeetingSummaries/2015/05-28]]
 * [[June 12|BoardOfDirectors/MeetingSummaries/2015/06-12]]
 * [[June 26|BoardOfDirectors/MeetingSummaries/2015/06-25]]
+* [[July 09|BoardOfDirectors/MeetingSummaries/2015/07-09]]
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+Summary of the 09 July 2015 meeting of the [[X.Org Foundation|XorgFoundation]] [[Board of Directors|BoardOfDirectors]]
+Full IRC meeting logs are posted at [[BoardOfDirectors/IrcLogs/2015/]]
+
+## Attendees
+
+Present:
+
+* Peter Hutterer, Egbert Eich, Rob Clark, Martin Peres, Alex Deucher, Keith Packard, Daniel Vetter
+
+Absent:
+
+* Egbert Eich, Matt Dew
+
+
+## Summary
+
+EVoC proposal to port Glean tests to the piglit framework (re)approved.
+Migration of expo still ongoing, GSoC students successfully passed midterms.
+
+## Items discussed
+
+[[!format txt """
+ITEM: expo.x.org
+openshift test installation, still sorting out email routing. We'll try for
+an authenticated smtp relay through fdo. the two mailing lists (board@ and
+members@) will be transferred to be hosted on fdo as well.
+ACTIONS: Rob C and Keith P to coordinate with the fdo admins
+STATUS: Pending
+
+ITEM: EVoC
+Brian P is happy to mentor Juliet for her proposal, porting
+Glean tests to the piglit framework. This project was already approved
+pending mentor acceptance in May but the original mentor was unavailable for
+the timeframe.
+ACTIONS: Matt D to notify Juliet and Brian
+STATUS: Complete
+
+ITEM: GSoC
+Midterm evaluation time, all our students have passed.
+ACTIONS: None
+STATUS: Complete
+"""]]
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+